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hamish's avatar

This is great! Really well written.

TBH, I still have a hard time understanding the women's perspective on this one.

I parse the situation as:

1. The guy walks the girl home is a courting activity (going for an evening walk together is romantic + "walking her home" has date-y connotations)

2. So naturally, when she says she's not interested, he drops the courting (which was a bit of nuisance that he would regularly do for very few people).

I wonder if this is all downstream of asymmetric information. There is a small cohort of men who frequently prey on women. The predatory behaviour happens mostly in private, so most men see none of it and often aren't aware it exists. But because the predatory men do it frequently, women end up seeing a lot of predatory behaviour, and risk of sexual assault is very real and needs to be actively managed.

Thus the man ends up interpreting "walk me home" as a basically symbolic courting ritual, and the woman interprets it as a friend protecting their friend from easily preventable harm. They have a completely different understanding of what's at stake. So what the man means by "I won't walk you home anymore" is "let's hang out 10% less." What the woman hears is "You have rejected me so I'm throwing you to the wolves."

Does that scan for you?

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Privacat's avatar

I do not envy being in my 20s anymore.

Interestingly, when my husband and I were reading the reddit post and then your response, he went from being highly sympathetic with the guy (he was that guy, but not a dick), to understanding why the guy's response was not great. Now, if only more single guys copped on to this.

When I was in the woman's position in my early 20s, I didn't always catch the covert feelings schtick early, but it always became obvious well before the 3 year mark. So, either she knew and was hoping he wouldn't act on his feelings (which is shitty), or she was hopelessly oblivious. Either way, I hope they both learn from this.

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